• Harish

    Thanks for this post you said it so nicely ….. We put it a bit different here and suggest one uses a cost-benefit analysis approach to figure out what SMM can do for the bottom line:

    http://commetrics.com/articles/metrics-3/

    Thanks for sharing.

    Regards

    Urs
    @ComMetrics

  • Harish

    Thanks for this post you said it so nicely ….. We put it a bit different here and suggest one uses a cost-benefit analysis approach to figure out what SMM can do for the bottom line:

    http://commetrics.com/articles/metrics-3/

    Thanks for sharing.

    Regards

    Urs
    @ComMetrics

  • Urs:

    Thanks for your comments and kind words. Much appreciated!

    Regards,

    Harish Kotadia (HKotadia)

  • Urs:

    Thanks for your comments and kind words. Much appreciated!

    Regards,

    Harish Kotadia (HKotadia)

  • Dear Harish,
    You are correct on one thing: Social media is a medium and doesn’t have ROI in and of itself. But so is TV, and it doesn’t have ROI either but every single true marketer will talk to you about the Return On Investment of their strategies on whatever media they choose. Therefore, there is talk about ROI on Social Media, just as there is talk about ROI on TV because it always refers to the strategy executed on that particular media and no other. A strategy may be brilliant but if the media chosen is not reaching the target market, my ROI will not be as high as expected. The two pieces are tied together. You can’t have one without the other and they both contribute to the ROI.
    Hope this helps clarify some concepts. Thank you for the opportunity of contributing to you and others.
    Warmest regards,
    Claudia

  • Dear Harish,
    You are correct on one thing: Social media is a medium and doesn’t have ROI in and of itself. But so is TV, and it doesn’t have ROI either but every single true marketer will talk to you about the Return On Investment of their strategies on whatever media they choose. Therefore, there is talk about ROI on Social Media, just as there is talk about ROI on TV because it always refers to the strategy executed on that particular media and no other. A strategy may be brilliant but if the media chosen is not reaching the target market, my ROI will not be as high as expected. The two pieces are tied together. You can’t have one without the other and they both contribute to the ROI.
    Hope this helps clarify some concepts. Thank you for the opportunity of contributing to you and others.
    Warmest regards,
    Claudia

  • Kris C.

    Four days after this post, you posted Olivier Blanchard’s Social Media ROI presentation that has received thousands of views, visits and discussion comments on various sites. He is not selling snake oil, and I definitely believe smart marketers, execs and consultants will not be afraid to ask about the ROI of taking their marketing in a new direction they’re unfamiliar with – if they DIDN’T ask, that would be a problem. People who already know a lot about it aren’t the ones seeking consultant help and standing to be ripped off by those who want to deflect attention from the question by calling it influence, engagement, relationship-driven marketing or any other keyword concept they pick up at a conference.

  • Kris C.

    Four days after this post, you posted Olivier Blanchard’s Social Media ROI presentation that has received thousands of views, visits and discussion comments on various sites. He is not selling snake oil, and I definitely believe smart marketers, execs and consultants will not be afraid to ask about the ROI of taking their marketing in a new direction they’re unfamiliar with – if they DIDN’T ask, that would be a problem. People who already know a lot about it aren’t the ones seeking consultant help and standing to be ripped off by those who want to deflect attention from the question by calling it influence, engagement, relationship-driven marketing or any other keyword concept they pick up at a conference.

  • Hi Target Latino:

    You are correct that Strategy and Media determine effectiveness of any campaign. It must also be emphasized that Social Media is still in infancy, we are yet to understand how social media influences consumer behavior, especially the brand selection process. We cannot use metrics of broadcast medium such as radio or television for measuring social media impact. Rather than trying to measure ROI, which might be inaccurate as we do not know all the variables involved, it is better to measure engagement or similar direct measures.

    Thanks again for your comments,

    Harish Kotadia (HKotadia)

  • Hi Target Latino:

    You are correct that Strategy and Media determine effectiveness of any campaign. It must also be emphasized that Social Media is still in infancy, we are yet to understand how social media influences consumer behavior, especially the brand selection process. We cannot use metrics of broadcast medium such as radio or television for measuring social media impact. Rather than trying to measure ROI, which might be inaccurate as we do not know all the variables involved, it is better to measure engagement or similar direct measures.

    Thanks again for your comments,

    Harish Kotadia (HKotadia)

  • Kris C:

    Thanks for your comments. I like Olivier Blanchard’s presentation on the Basics Of Social Media ROI, especially slide nos. 32-34 on Investment Return Relationship and emphasis on Non-financial Impact of Social Media. The reason I want to exercise caution when using the term “Social Media ROI” is that Social Media is still in infancy, we don’t know enough on how social media influences consumer behavior, especially the brand selection process.

    Social Media is characterized by customers interacting among themselves and talking about a brand or product. It is not one way communication from marketer to customers like advertising. So cannot use metrics of broadcast medium such as radio or television for measuring social media impact. We should also not use metrics derived for web-based marketing as they don’t factor in the “Social” dimension. We are trying to measure a 3 dimension object with 2 dimension scale – it is bound to fail.

    Rather than trying to measure ROI, which might be inaccurate as we do not know all the variables involved, it is better to measure engagement or similar direct measures. Once marketers realize this, they will stop using the term “Social Media ROI” the way it is being used today. Hope this clarifies the point.

    Thanks again for your comments,

    Harish Kotadia (HKotadia)

  • Kris C:

    Thanks for your comments. I like Olivier Blanchard’s presentation on the Basics Of Social Media ROI, especially slide nos. 32-34 on Investment Return Relationship and emphasis on Non-financial Impact of Social Media. The reason I want to exercise caution when using the term “Social Media ROI” is that Social Media is still in infancy, we don’t know enough on how social media influences consumer behavior, especially the brand selection process.

    Social Media is characterized by customers interacting among themselves and talking about a brand or product. It is not one way communication from marketer to customers like advertising. So cannot use metrics of broadcast medium such as radio or television for measuring social media impact. We should also not use metrics derived for web-based marketing as they don’t factor in the “Social” dimension. We are trying to measure a 3 dimension object with 2 dimension scale – it is bound to fail.

    Rather than trying to measure ROI, which might be inaccurate as we do not know all the variables involved, it is better to measure engagement or similar direct measures. Once marketers realize this, they will stop using the term “Social Media ROI” the way it is being used today. Hope this clarifies the point.

    Thanks again for your comments,

    Harish Kotadia (HKotadia)

  • I agree with the posts that state social media does not have an ROI any more than a TV has an ROI.

    The point is that the medium is another medium through which companies can run marketing campaigns; and, those marketing campaigns can have an ROI.

    Someone can tweet a link to a blog. The blog could be a thoughtful article that gets someone interested in a particular product. The blog could have a link at the end that points to a CRM landing page that pushes a lead into CRM. The lead could generate an opportunity that results in won business.

    And even if the whole scenario above does not play out like above with an actual measurable ROI of revenue generated from a campaign pushed through a blog and a tweet, it still could generate eyeballs on a companies website. And those eyeballs are something people pay for all the time through ad agencies.

  • I agree with the posts that state social media does not have an ROI any more than a TV has an ROI.

    The point is that the medium is another medium through which companies can run marketing campaigns; and, those marketing campaigns can have an ROI.

    Someone can tweet a link to a blog. The blog could be a thoughtful article that gets someone interested in a particular product. The blog could have a link at the end that points to a CRM landing page that pushes a lead into CRM. The lead could generate an opportunity that results in won business.

    And even if the whole scenario above does not play out like above with an actual measurable ROI of revenue generated from a campaign pushed through a blog and a tweet, it still could generate eyeballs on a companies website. And those eyeballs are something people pay for all the time through ad agencies.

  • What an absolutely spot on post! Thanks so much for your concise summary of the real state of Social Media’s ROI! We’ve already passed this along to several industry colleagues for additional reference to what we constantly discuss.
    Ken Lingad
    1680PR

  • What an absolutely spot on post! Thanks so much for your concise summary of the real state of Social Media’s ROI! We’ve already passed this along to several industry colleagues for additional reference to what we constantly discuss.
    Ken Lingad
    1680PR

  • Ken:

    Thanks for your kind words. Much appreciated!

    Harish Kotadia, Ph.D.

  • Ken:

    Thanks for your kind words. Much appreciated!

    Harish Kotadia, Ph.D.

  • Ron:

    Thanks for the comment. You are right in saying that Social is another “Medium” and doesn’t have ROI of its own. This is the reason why I suggested that rather than trying to measure effectiveness of Social Media campaigns through ROI, it is better to use other KPIs like Engagement (or similar measures like traffic to the website etc..).

    And you are absolutely right that people pay for traffic to a website or clicks. Social Media can be very effectively used for “engaging” customers and prospects. This will generate traffic/clicks and will result in revenue and ultimately, ROI.

    Harish Kotadia, Ph.D.

  • Ron:

    Thanks for the comment. You are right in saying that Social is another “Medium” and doesn’t have ROI of its own. This is the reason why I suggested that rather than trying to measure effectiveness of Social Media campaigns through ROI, it is better to use other KPIs like Engagement (or similar measures like traffic to the website etc..).

    And you are absolutely right that people pay for traffic to a website or clicks. Social Media can be very effectively used for “engaging” customers and prospects. This will generate traffic/clicks and will result in revenue and ultimately, ROI.

    Harish Kotadia, Ph.D.